Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)

Fidalgo, Darío; Fernández-Rodríguez, Carlos; Ballesteros, Daniel; Ordiz, Andrés; Pérez de la Viuda, Christian; Cruz, Juncal A.; García-Morato, Sara; Fernández-Martínez, Esperanza

Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)

This manuscript responds to the comment of García-Vázquez on our recent paper, especially regarding the decline in body mass of the Cantabrian brown bear during the Holocene. The observations of García-Vázquez are reviewed point by point, addressing methodological aspects, that is, the use of the Vi...

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Autores:	Fidalgo, Darío, Fernández-Rodríguez, Carlos, Ballesteros, Daniel, Ordiz, Andrés, Pérez de la Viuda, Christian, Cruz, Juncal A., García-Morato, Sara, Fernández-Martínez, Esperanza
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Fecha de publicación:	2025
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Palabra clave:	Body size Holocene Iberian Peninsula Open science Ursus arctos

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spelling	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)Fidalgo, DaríoFernández-Rodríguez, CarlosBallesteros, DanielOrdiz, AndrésPérez de la Viuda, ChristianCruz, Juncal A.García-Morato, SaraFernández-Martínez, EsperanzaBody sizeHoloceneIberian PeninsulaOpen scienceUrsus arctosThis manuscript responds to the comment of García-Vázquez on our recent paper, especially regarding the decline in body mass of the Cantabrian brown bear during the Holocene. The observations of García-Vázquez are reviewed point by point, addressing methodological aspects, that is, the use of the Viranta equation, the mass estimation of the specimen SH5-97-T29-35 and radiocarbon dating, as well as her ethical questions about the use of previously published data. Re-evaluations show that (1) the errors noted do not significantly affect the original conclusions of Fidalgo et al. and, (2) the use of third-party data was carried out in compliance with both legal regulations and open science principles. The new analyses maintain the pattern of declining bear body size after 7000–4500 years ago, without any conclusive evidence to link this phenomenon to the introduction of firearms in historical times. Neither this nor any alternative hypotheses are discarded, though. The importance of integrative meta-analyses in data-poor contexts is highlighted, and their legitimacy in the framework of collaborative and open science is defended, provided that sources of data are cited.Sage PublicationsConsejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas [https://ror.org/02gfc7t72]2026202620252026info:eu-repo/semantics/articlehttp://purl.org/coar/resource_type/c_6501Publisher's versioninfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionhttp://hdl.handle.net/10261/429866reponame:DIGITAL.CSIC. Repositorio Institucional del CSICinstname:Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas (CSIC)http://dx.doi.org/10.1177/09596836251358475Síinfo:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessoai:dnet:digitalcsic_::84a3c40a70e447c4f530739c7f0885512026-05-22T06:33:51Z
dc.title.none.fl_str_mv	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)
title	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)
spellingShingle	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025) Fidalgo, Darío Body size Holocene Iberian Peninsula Open science Ursus arctos
title_short	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)
title_full	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)
title_fullStr	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)
title_full_unstemmed	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)
title_sort	Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)
dc.creator.none.fl_str_mv	Fidalgo, Darío Fernández-Rodríguez, Carlos Ballesteros, Daniel Ordiz, Andrés Pérez de la Viuda, Christian Cruz, Juncal A. García-Morato, Sara Fernández-Martínez, Esperanza
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author_facet	Fidalgo, Darío Fernández-Rodríguez, Carlos Ballesteros, Daniel Ordiz, Andrés Pérez de la Viuda, Christian Cruz, Juncal A. García-Morato, Sara Fernández-Martínez, Esperanza
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author2	Fernández-Rodríguez, Carlos Ballesteros, Daniel Ordiz, Andrés Pérez de la Viuda, Christian Cruz, Juncal A. García-Morato, Sara Fernández-Martínez, Esperanza
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dc.contributor.none.fl_str_mv	Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas [https://ror.org/02gfc7t72]
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description	This manuscript responds to the comment of García-Vázquez on our recent paper, especially regarding the decline in body mass of the Cantabrian brown bear during the Holocene. The observations of García-Vázquez are reviewed point by point, addressing methodological aspects, that is, the use of the Viranta equation, the mass estimation of the specimen SH5-97-T29-35 and radiocarbon dating, as well as her ethical questions about the use of previously published data. Re-evaluations show that (1) the errors noted do not significantly affect the original conclusions of Fidalgo et al. and, (2) the use of third-party data was carried out in compliance with both legal regulations and open science principles. The new analyses maintain the pattern of declining bear body size after 7000–4500 years ago, without any conclusive evidence to link this phenomenon to the introduction of firearms in historical times. Neither this nor any alternative hypotheses are discarded, though. The importance of integrative meta-analyses in data-poor contexts is highlighted, and their legitimacy in the framework of collaborative and open science is defended, provided that sources of data are cited.
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Lack of data and misperception of open science limit the scope of Cantabrian brown bear body mass studies, not misinterpretation of results: Reply to comment by García-Vázquez (2025)

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